XTension digest Tuesday, July 17 2001 Volume 01 : Number 306 Off-line help needed xpress 'problem' found Re: BeeHive Tech? RE: xpress 'problem' found RE: xpress 'problem' found RE: xpress 'problem' found [off] Macworld was( RE: xpress 'problem' found) Re: X10 Pro products Re: Phone terminal block. Re: [off] Macworld was( RE: xpress 'problem' found) Re: [off] Macworld July Macworld Magazine, back page Re: BlueTooth was July Macworld Magazine, back page Re: BlueTooth Re: BlueTooth was July Macworld Magazine, back page Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? Re: July Macworld Magazine, back page Extended Codes OK with new Lynx PLC? Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? Re: Extended Codes OK with new Lynx PLC? Re: Weeder errors Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? Re: Weeder errors Re: Phone terminal block. Re: Extended Codes OK with new Lynx PLC? Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? Re: Phone terminal block. Re: Weeder errors Re: Weeder errors riddle me this, batman... Re: riddle me this, batman... Re: riddle me this, batman... YoYo Re: riddle me this, batman... Re: riddle me this, batman... Re: riddle me this, batman... Re: riddle me this, batman... Re: riddle me this, batman... AS question Re: xpress 'problem' found LynX-10 PLC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 06:34:37 -0700 From: rmossman Subject: Off-line help needed Sorry for the interruption! If anyone on this list feels they are pretty good with complex Filemaker Pro calculations, I'd like to converse with them off-line. Please send your e-mail info to rmossman@pacbell.net. Thanks. Now, back to your normal (?) discussions! Richard Mossman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:36:59 -0400 From: michael Subject: xpress 'problem' found Good morning Marcel, I have found the problem... You need to set the 'smart' option for any Unit to which you want to send the "xpress" command. The 'bug' is that I do not utter any message when I ignore the xpress command to a non-smart unit... I'll make the change in the next version, as well as put some comments in the manual about the usage... Now you've got a good reason to come to the MW in January :-) Buying a sushi dinner is much better than worrying about some screwey platform dependent problem :-) michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:42:16 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: BeeHive Tech? Gregory said : >So what happened to Beehive Technologies, maker of the ADB I/O. I tried to >search the archives to see if there were any other discussions about it. The >web site doesn't exist any more. Hello Greg, The Beehive vaporized last October. Another victim of the daily grind. Sven and Nancy both have jobs at JPL, and just couldn't keep up with the demands of managing the Beehive. RIP michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:48:16 -0500 From: "Prsha, Jerry" Subject: RE: xpress 'problem' found Does this mean that you'll definitely be there (MacWorld) this time? Jp > ---------- > From: michael > Reply To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 8:36 AM > To: xtensionlist@shed.com > Subject: xpress 'problem' found > > Now you've got a good reason to come to the MW in January :-) > > michael > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:00:38 -0400 From: michael Subject: RE: xpress 'problem' found Prsha, said : >Does this mean that you'll definitely be there (MacWorld) this time? Hi Jerry, We're planning to have Elena's mom and daughter visiting at that time. Momma will watch the chickens while Elena, Helena and I join the ZephIR boys in a booth... at least that's the best plan for now... I can't wait. I just love the SF show. Lots of memories, and the SF folks BUY a lot more than the NYC folks :-) michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:05:33 -0500 From: "Prsha, Jerry" Subject: RE: xpress 'problem' found > We're planning to have Elena's mom and daughter visiting at that time. > Momma will watch the chickens while Elena, Helena and I join > the ZephIR boys in a booth... at least that's the best plan for now... > Woo-Hoo.. now this'll probably be the year that I can't go or something! > I can't wait. I just love the SF show. Lots of memories, and > the SF folks BUY a lot more than the NYC folks :-) > Well, San Francisco attendees probably haven't had their wallets lifted on the way to the show, unlike their counterparts in NY.... ;) Jp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:34:07 -0400 From: James Sentman Subject: [off] Macworld was( RE: xpress 'problem' found) > > We're planning to have Elena's mom and daughter visiting at that time. >> Momma will watch the chickens while Elena, Helena and I join >> the ZephIR boys in a booth... at least that's the best plan for now... >> >Woo-Hoo.. now this'll probably be the year that I can't go or something! Right now I'm trying to get my wifes vacation to line up with the show so that we can go and then get the grandparents to come as well so someone can watch Jess. > > I can't wait. I just love the SF show. Lots of memories, and >> the SF folks BUY a lot more than the NYC folks :-) >> >Well, San Francisco attendees probably haven't had their wallets lifted on the >way to the show, unlike their counterparts in NY.... ;) Yikes. I've been to both shows and SF is much more fun. It's also a real pain to get a cab from the NY show and you can't walk from the show to any of the hotels. (At least none that you'd want to stay in) But SF isn't exactly the safest place either! The first year I worked the show in the real basic booth we stayed in a hotel on the border of the 'loin chop' district. I mean RIGHT on the line. The guy at the desk told us when you go out the door just remember to turn left and not right! When you walked out the door you could watch drug deals go down just a few feet away. Needless to say that I wasn't too happy carrying my laptop home at the end of the day. But it all worked out ok. I loved being at the show it really is a lot of fun. If you can go you should! - -James - -- _________________________________________________________________________ James Sentman http://www.sentman.com Enterprise server monitoring with: http://whistleblower.sentman.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:54:01 -0400 From: George Moore Subject: Re: X10 Pro products i've done that several times and not had a problem Michael Prusse wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to order the X10 Pro products and still > take advantage of the discounts, sales and promotions X10 is constantly > pushing? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:12:49 -0500 From: "Bruce Sergeant" Subject: Re: Phone terminal block. Mark, When I moved into my house, 11 years ago, I didn't have the money for one of the phone patch panel systems. So, one of the first things I did was to put a full sheet of plywood, in the basement, and began to use it to mount all of the new electrical/coax/phone/network connections in order to centralize all systems in one location. For the phone system, I just went to a hardware store a bought a bunch of wall-mount jacks. I organized them into an easy to see layout, ran each of the new phone wires to an individual box and crimped my own patch cables to run between them. Cheap and easy to reconfigure for extra lines, localtalk, whatever. "...and so I re-wired it." Bruce Sergeant Lecompton, KS >>> markfn@home.com 7/15/01 8:45 PM >>> I'm trying to upgrade the phone system in this house (read replace the rats nest of wires that I ran several years ago) with something that works a bit better. I would like to run all new phone wires to a central block and connect everything together at one point. It would be nice if it would be easy to connect and disconnect individual phones. My question is: Does anyone have any suggestions of what type of connecting device I should use and where can I get one? I promise I'll try to find some way to use XTension in this project, honest! Thanks - -- Mark F. Nettleingham markfn@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 08:18:37 -0700 From: Coleman Subject: Re: [off] Macworld was( RE: xpress 'problem' found) on 7/16/01 7:34 AM, James Sentman at james@sentman.com wrote: > you can't walk from the > show to any of the hotels. (At least none that you'd want to stay in) Plus you have to pay by the hour. Chuck Coleman coleman@teleport.com NEVER EVER use E-Trade for on line trading - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:21:49 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: [off] Macworld James said : >I've been to both shows and SF is much more fun. Hi Folks, I exhibited at the first SF show. I think it was '85 ? I smoozed into a booth with some long forgotten word processing software, and enabled them to print to multiple printers simulataneously. (using the PIPE). The poor guys didn't know that I had announced on the Compuserve MUG, that I would be showing the PIPE at the booth, and were quite pi**ed when hundreds of folks showed up wanting to see the PIPE but thought that their software wasn't 'Mac-ish'... :-) Since then, I've smoozed and paid maybe 8 times, and I've never been disappointed. The attendance is great, the visitors are avid Mac folks, and SF is a wonderful city. Given that there is plenty of time between now and January, maybe we could organize something more substantial than we've had at previous shows for Mac Home Automation ? Mitch Cohen has done this for the past couple of years, so maybe he has some ideas of what we Could do ? I'm thinking about a 'serious' forum. It should certainly include Bruce from Thinking Home, as well as some of the AppleScript development team who have been 'hooked', and we surely want to 'salt' the house with list members...:-) Then if only we could get Steve Jobs to mention something about XTension in his keynote speech, maybe 2002 could be the year that Mac HA really takes off... Of course he's not going to be interested if I haven't X'd XTension by then... In any case, there's always the great sushi restaurants michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 11:40:49 -0400 From: "Jeffrey A. Lomicka" Subject: July Macworld Magazine, back page Andy Ihnatko's back page commentary in the July Macworld had me laughing out loud. It will sound familiar to anyone on this list. It isn't posted on-line yet, as far as I can tell. Their site is still on the June issue. The article is on BlueTooth, but he starts the article by describing how he hacked his girlfriends alarm clock to work the coffeemaker using X10 and Applescript. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 09:00:05 -0700 From: Coleman Subject: Re: BlueTooth was July Macworld Magazine, back page on 7/16/01 8:40 AM, Jeffrey A. Lomicka at jlomicka@Mac.Com wrote: > The article is on BlueTooth, Speaking of BlueTooth (I read the article and it got me to thinking) is there a device that can do RF to my Weeder board. Having the ability to read temperatures without running 50 feet of CAT5 would be really cool. I have done a Sherlock search and found nothing yet. I assume that it is still to new to have such a device. Chuck Coleman coleman@teleport.com NEVER EVER use E-Trade for on line trading - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:19:24 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: BlueTooth Coleman said : >Having the ability to read >temperatures without running 50 feet of CAT5 would be really cool. Hi Chuck, I'm thinking that 50' is a bit much for Bluetooth... the official site is : www.bluetooth.com michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:22:55 -0400 From: Eric Reuter Subject: Re: BlueTooth was July Macworld Magazine, back page on 7/16/01 12:00 PM, Coleman wrote: > Speaking of BlueTooth (I read the article and it got me to thinking) is > there a device that can do RF to my Weeder board. Having the ability to read > temperatures without running 50 feet of CAT5 would be really cool. I have > done a Sherlock search and found nothing yet. I assume that it is still to > new to have such a device. The most efficient way to transmit data from a sensor is to first convert it to a digital bitstream and use an on-off keyed RF carrier scheme (like X-10). This would require an ADC at the sensor, eliminating the need for the Weeder ADC functions, and thus, the Weeder board itself. Doesn't answer you question, but food for thought. I know of someone who has given this idea some consideration already :) Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:29:57 -0400 From: "John Brumleve" Subject: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? Hi Folks, Of course we've never been able to block an already-transmitted powerline X-10 signal, but now with the MR-26a, it would be possible to block the RF signal from being passed through to the powerlines. Is the there a verb/param that enables us script the 'auto-pass-thru' ON or OFF for a particular unit/group? Maybe I haven't been paying attention... TIA, John "...as a matter of fact, it's ALL Rocket Science" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:30:31 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: July Macworld Magazine, back page Jeffrey said : >The article is on BlueTooth, but he starts the article by describing >how he hacked his girlfriends alarm clock to work the coffeemaker >using X10 and Applescript. Andy likes XTension... see:< http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0002/15.ihnatko.shtml> michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:36:34 -0400 From: "John Brumleve" Subject: Extended Codes OK with new Lynx PLC? Hello again, I'm still waiting for mine, but... Are the extended code transmit/receive commands enabled in the Lynx version? I guess this would also apply to any other "TW-523-blocked" commands as well (X-press? Send data? I Don't Know...) TIA, John "...as a matter of fact, it's ALL Rocket Science" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:36:44 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? John said : >Of course we've never been able to block an already-transmitted powerline >X-10 signal, but now with the MR-26a, it would be possible to block the >RF signal from being passed through to the powerlines. Is the there a >verb/param that enables us script the 'auto-pass-thru' ON or OFF for a >particular unit/group? > >Maybe I haven't been paying attention... Hi John, It may not be as elegant as the 'block' command, but yes you can script the option : set params of "Motion Sensor" wireless [true/false] passthru [true/false] see the manual "Database editing verbs" michael ================================================= set params of unit: Set the unit type variables for a named unit set params of string [Param option]...[]...[]... examples : set params of "Lamp" dimmable true simulate true single false or: set params of "Lamp" with dimmable with simulate without single (these two statements do exactly the same thing...) Variables : dimmable, simulate, smart, reverse, receive, single, wireless, passthru (All applicable items work for groups too.) ================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:42:47 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: Extended Codes OK with new Lynx PLC? John said : >I'm still waiting for mine, but... >Are the extended code transmit/receive commands enabled in the Lynx >version? I guess this would also apply to any other "TW-523-blocked" >commands as well (X-press? Send data? I Don't Know...) According to a message I got on Saturday from Marrick, the PLC can do the Extended code commands. However, no docs exist, and I haven't gotten the latest production model. As soon as the above conditions are met, I will add the features to XTension. (The model I have won't do the command, and is still being very pesky) michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:03:35 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" Subject: Re: Weeder errors Try turning the power on and then back on. I had this happen once where the readings were crazy. Power cycling fixed it. Henk Coleman wrote: > Been getting a lot of these lately. > > The weeder got an error : Can't make "1070 > A644" into a integer. > > Any ideas. These are associated with temp reading of -119 and 1156 degrees. > Is that why my computer melted? > > Chuck Coleman > coleman@teleport.com > NEVER EVER use E-Trade for on line trading > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 12:59:08 -0400 From: Phil Pedersen Subject: Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? - --============_-1216819038==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > >see the manual "Database editing verbs" >michael And even if you don't read the manual, it's in the XTension dictionary set params of: Set the parameters for a unit. IE: set params of "Unit" dimmable preset reverse receive single set params of string -- name of unit [dimmable boolean] -- option dimmable (or discrete) [simulate boolean] -- simulate preset dim [smart boolean] -- smart dimmer [wireless boolean] [passThru boolean] [reverse boolean] -- Reverse logic of input and output [receive boolean] -- Receive only [single boolean] -- Single click on Icon to toggle state Phil - --============_-1216819038==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit?


see the manual "Database editing verbs"
michael

And even if you don't read the manual, it's in the XTension dictionary

set params of: Set the parameters for a unit.
IE:  set params of "Unit" dimmable preset reverse receive single
   set params of  string  - -- name of unit
          [dimmable  boolean]  -- option dimmable (or discrete)
           [simulate  boolean]  -- simulate preset dim
                [smart  boolean]  -- smart dimmer
                [wireless  boolean]
             [passThru  boolean]
             [reverse  boolean]  -- Reverse logic of input and output
                [receive  boolean]  -- Receive only
             [single  boolean]  -- Single click on Icon to toggle state

Phil
- --============_-1216819038==_ma============-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:14:17 -0700 From: Coleman Subject: Re: Weeder errors on 7/16/01 10:03 AM, Hendrik W. M. van Eeden at hvaneeden@home.com wrote: > Try turning the power on and then back on. I had this happen once where the > readings were crazy. Power cycling fixed it. "Well where can I get a program that will turn on/off electrical devices?" asked Chuck with tongue firmly implanted in cheek. Chuck Coleman coleman@teleport.com NEVER EVER use E-Trade for on line trading - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:14:24 -0400 From: "Mark F. Nettleingham" Subject: Re: Phone terminal block. Bruce, Sounds like a good idea. I think I'll visit the local hardware store and start with a few jacks to see how it works. This sounds like it would be as flexible as a patch panel, and not as expensive. Bruce Sergeant wrote: > Mark, > > When I moved into my house, 11 years ago, I didn't have the money for one of the phone patch panel systems. So, one of the first things I did was to put a full sheet of plywood, in the basement, and began to use it to mount all of the new electrical/coax/phone/network connections in order to centralize all systems in one location. For the phone system, I just went to a hardware store a bought a bunch of wall-mount jacks. I organized them into an easy to see layout, ran each of the new phone wires to an individual box and crimped my own patch cables to run between them. Cheap and easy to reconfigure for extra lines, localtalk, whatever. > > "...and so I re-wired it." > Bruce Sergeant > Lecompton, KS > > >>> markfn@home.com 7/15/01 8:45 PM >>> > I'm trying to upgrade the phone system in this house (read replace > the rats nest of wires that I ran several years ago) with something that > works a bit better. I would like to run all new phone wires to a central > block and connect everything together at one point. It would be nice if > it would be easy to connect and disconnect individual phones. My > question is: Does anyone have any suggestions of what type of connecting > device I should use and where can I get one? > > I promise I'll try to find some way to use XTension in this project, > honest! > > Thanks > -- > Mark F. Nettleingham > > markfn@home.com Thanks - -- Mark F. Nettleingham (732) 870-4635 markfn@commvault.com markfn@home.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:27:56 -0400 From: "John Brumleve" Subject: Re: Extended Codes OK with new Lynx PLC? Thanks, Michael I just talked with Marrick a minute ago, and they said "maybe today..." I've been running two systems against each other at home now for a couple weeks: One has just the Lynx-10 interface and runs the house; the other is only listening to RF, through Mister26, with no powerline interface. I've been taking note of what each system has "seen" from the RF transmitters, and it appears to be a tie, except for the enhanced range of Mister26. When it comes in, I'll probably migrate the house over to the PLC and Mister26 and then retire the old Lynx-10 and all of the Rut-Roh-501's. I'm really looking foward to accessing the use of some of the Extended Code Dimmers and the Garage Door Sensors, etc. that I have held in abeyance. I haven't had the need to do a Master/Monitor rig, with two interfaces: Ya know, now that I think about it, I have NEVER, in the past two years, been FORCED to restart my HA rig: 6100 with the Lynx-10 kit. I was on version 2.5.6 for what seemed like forever, until I wanted to try the Mister26... (I hope I have the same reliability after the move: "If it ain't broke..." ?) I retired the CoMatose11a early on, after having enough of it: switched to the Lynx-10 and have never looked back. Anyway, Thanx, John "...as a matter of fact, it's ALL Rocket Science" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:31:24 -0400 From: "John Brumleve" Subject: Re: Scripting 'auto-pass-thru' for a unit? >>> philip.pedersen@speakeasy.org 07/16/01 12:59PM >>> And even if you don't read the manual, it's in the XTension dictionary Sorry, Phil, I'm at the office, sitting at a PeeCee. 'Couldn't check it out for myself, when I thought of the question... Thanx, John "...as a matter of fact, it's ALL Rocket Science" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:54:15 -0400 From: Phil Pedersen Subject: Re: Phone terminal block. At 1:14 PM -0400 7/16/01, Mark F. Nettleingham wrote: >Bruce, > Sounds like a good idea. I think I'll visit the local hardware >store and start with a few jacks to see how it works. This sounds >like it would be as flexible as a patch panel, and not as expensive. >When I moved into my house, 11 years ago, I didn't have the money >for one of the phone patch panel systems. So, one of the first >things I did was to put a full sheet of plywood, in the basement, >and began to use it to mount all of the new >electrical/coax/phone/network connections in order to centralize all >systems in one location. For the phone system, I just went to a >hardware store a bought a bunch of wall-mount jacks. I organized >them into an easy to see layout, ran each of the new phone wires to >an individual box and crimped my own patch cables to run between >them. Cheap and easy to reconfigure for extra lines, localtalk, >whatever. I put in a 66 block for the incoming phone lines and then went from there to an 8 way coupler. I put all the extensions on 4-wire keystone jacks and used 8 way double wall plates that mount to a standard double receptacle box. That way, everything's using punchdown connections and pretty easily changed. I think the 4-wire jacks were $3.00 each, the coupler was $35, the 66 block I got for free from somewhere, the plates were a couple of bucks each and the punchdown tool for both 66 and 110 type terminations was around $50.00 Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 13:00:01 -0600 From: John Mitchener Subject: Re: Weeder errors on 7/16/01 11:14 AM, Coleman at coleman@teleport.com wrote: > "Well where can I get a program that will turn on/off electrical devices?" > asked Chuck with tongue firmly implanted in cheek. > You could move to where I live. The local power company provides that as a fairly regular service. ;) John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:14:51 -0400 From: "Hendrik W. M. van Eeden" Subject: Re: Weeder errors You know it only happened to me when I was messing with the board such as plugging wires in and out and making connections. That is when the thing got confused, cannot understand this!:-) Once it is up and running and I left it alone, i never went nuts on me. Henk Henk Coleman wrote: > on 7/16/01 10:03 AM, Hendrik W. M. van Eeden at hvaneeden@home.com wrote: > > > Try turning the power on and then back on. I had this happen once where the > > readings were crazy. Power cycling fixed it. > > "Well where can I get a program that will turn on/off electrical devices?" > asked Chuck with tongue firmly implanted in cheek. > > Chuck Coleman > coleman@teleport.com > NEVER EVER use E-Trade for on line trading > ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:43:31 -0500 From: Dave Leland Subject: riddle me this, batman... Scenario: Mac "B" in monitor mode, with an MR26 connected. Target is Mac "A" which has a CM11a. Device at address B1 set to RF-ok and auto-pass-thru. I then hit a palmpad key... Mac B: RF command received (on event). Event sent to Mac A. Log of "B": Received ON for B1 Log of "A": Received ON for B1 BUT, the command doesn't get passed on to the powerline. On the other hand, on Mac B if I double-click the unit in the list, the command IS subsequently passed on to the powerlines via Mac A. Is there a way to get the command to the CM11a from the RF remote via the MR26 connected to a monitor mode XTension mac? Thanks! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:03:45 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... Dave said : >Is there a way to get the command to the CM11a from the RF remote via the >MR26 connected to a monitor mode XTension mac? Hello Dave, I'm supposing that you have both RF Ok and Pass-Thru set true on both Macs... If that's true, then I can imagine that you might have an Attachments Script handler for things like the thermostat or the 'All' type commands ? It's an interesting test... Mon, Jul 16, 2001 4:59:30 PM Received ON command for Dish1 (W) Mon, Jul 16, 2001 4:59:30 PM Sending ON command for Dish1 Mon, Jul 16, 2001 4:59:32 PM Received ON command for Dish1 Just as in your setup... A receives the RF command, passes it to B, and then B passes it thru to the powerlines, and A sees it come in via the CM11... curiously incestuous, but surely there's some good use for this ...:-) I think you got a handler in the Attachments script...? michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:34:44 -0500 From: Dave Leland Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... > I'm supposing that you have both RF Ok and Pass-Thru set true on > both Macs...> Well, er, not quite. Mac A (the CM11a one) is running ver. 3.0.5. There's a reason, I just can't think of it now... :) Since an "on" command (double-click on unit) on B *does* result in the powerline command, I had hoped only Mac B, with Mister26, needed the newer version. > Mon, Jul 16, 2001 4:59:30 PM Received ON command for Dish1 (W) Whoa. Just noticed that I'm not getting the (W) tacked on the end in the log (this is Mac B now, running 3.6.5). Whyfore? > It's an interesting test... I only have one CM11a, connected to Mac A, so I can't see any incestuous confirmation :( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:48:15 -0400 From: Phil Pedersen Subject: YoYo I just bought another YoYo on Ebay. This one was only $41.00 including shipping (I used Buy it now, since I lost out on the last couple and got in early on this one.) If anyone's interested, they seem to come up about every two weeks or so and, if you set up for email notification, you might be able to get one as inexpensively I did. I wanted a second one for backup and for my possible second phone line. One thing I have seen that I'd change if I built one of these is that the caller ID isn't passed through to any connected phones. I use mine connected at the incoming terminal block and so have all the phones in the house wired through it. That way, no phones ring unless the YoYo lets them. I had to use the second pair in the telephone cable to run the line without going through the YoYo to pick up caller ID on separate boxes; a real pain if I'm going to add another line. Phil ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:54:19 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... Dave said : >Whoa. Just noticed that I'm not getting the (W) tacked on the end in the log >(this is Mac B now, running 3.6.5). Whyfore? Hello Dave, In an earlier list message you mentioned that you have the TX15b ? Have you converted to the new technique or are you using the original Steve Fyfe plugin ? If the latter, then you do have an Attachments handler which does not pass thru the 'wireless' parameter... michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:05:39 -0500 From: Dave Leland Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... > Have you converted to the new technique or are you using the original > Steve Fyfe plugin ? Rut-Roh! (as another lister recently put it) That deduction was from your excellent memory, and not that top-secret subroutine that updates the mainframe at Global Shed Community as to our every move... right? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:10:12 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... Dave said : >That deduction was from your excellent memory, and not that top-secret >subroutine that updates the mainframe at Global Shed Community as to our >every move... right? All list moms need help. But I'm not saying just how I know :-) Ever notice that little extra flashing of the SEND light on your modem ? michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:12:48 -0500 From: Dave Leland Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... > If the latter, then you do have an Attachments handler which does > not pass thru the 'wireless' parameter... ok, the attachment handler has been excised from the monitor-MR26 Mac (mac B). Now the palmpad hit does this: Log B: Received ON command for B4 (W) Log B: Sending ON command for B4 and then over at old-faithful Mac A (CM11a) Log A: Received ON for B4 The database is updated on Mac A but no PLC is sent. Must Mac A also be running at 3.6.5? Thx, d ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 18:29:07 -0400 From: michael Subject: Re: riddle me this, batman... Dave said : >The database is updated on Mac A but no PLC is sent. Must Mac A also be >running at 3.6.5? Oh no ! You mean that the copy of XTension on Mac A didn't automatically update itself ???? obviously you must have some virus defeating logic on that Mac :-) michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:00:00 -0700 From: Coleman Subject: AS question Can I reference a property in another property in the same script? It appears to work but I don't want to have problems down the road. I want the ability to change the time if needed without going through several properties to change the time element. Here is an example. property time_frame : 20 * minutes property basement_sensors : (time delta of "Sensor --- Basement") is greater than time_frame or (time delta of "Sensor --- Basement Computer") is greater than time_frame or (time delta of "Sensor --- Basement Furnace") is greater than time_frame or (time delta of "Sensor --- Washroom") is greater than time_frame My reference is time_frame and I want to be able to just change it in one place. And as long as I'm at it can I put all the basement sensors in a group and reference all of them at once rather than spell it out as I have above. I am getting this scripting thing down. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks? Chuck Coleman coleman@teleport.com NEVER EVER use E-Trade for on line trading - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 19:32:39 -0700 From: Marcel Rivard Subject: Re: xpress 'problem' found - --Apple-Mail-859036769-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii Ahhh, I see, for these new-fangled versions of XTension, I can only use Xpress commands with Smart units. Thank you, it works just great now. I love the MR26 connection. I'm thinking of just connecting it into my TV antenna amplifier. Think it will help? On Monday, July 16, 2001, at 06:36 AM, michael wrote: > Good morning Marcel, > > I have found the problem... > > You need to set the 'smart' option for any Unit to which you > want to send the "xpress" command. > > The 'bug' is that I do not utter any message when I ignore the xpress > command to a non-smart unit... > > I'll make the change in the next version, as well as put some > comments in the manual about the usage... > > Now you've got a good reason to come to the MW in January :-) > > Buying a sushi dinner is much better than worrying about some > screwey platform dependent problem :-) > > michael > > > > - -- Marcel Rivard ==== Managing programmers is like herding cats... ==== - --Apple-Mail-859036769-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=us-ascii Ahhh, I see, for these new-fangled versions of XTension, I can only use Xpress commands with Smart units. Thank you, it works just great now. I love the MR26 connection. I'm thinking of just connecting it into my TV antenna amplifier. Think it will help? On Monday, July 16, 2001, at 06:36 AM, michael wrote: Good morning Marcel, I have found the problem... You need to set the 'smart' option for any Unit to which you want to send the "xpress" command. The 'bug' is that I do not utter any message when I ignore the xpress command to a non-smart unit... I'll make the change in the next version, as well as put some comments in the manual about the usage... Now you've got a good reason to come to the MW in January :-) Buying a sushi dinner is much better than worrying about some screwey platform dependent problem :-) michael -- Marcel Rivard ==== Managing programmers is like herding cats... ==== - --Apple-Mail-859036769-1-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 21:31:31 -0700 From: terry barnum Subject: LynX-10 PLC I just got some more email from Marrickltd today that said the LynX-10 PLC is now shipping. Has anyone already received it yet? If so, does it work as advertised? I really need to get rid of the CM-11 I'm using, or more correctly, trying to use. It works for about a day, then I get Error #35's for everything. I do the voodoo thing (unplugging it first and letting it rest overnight) and then maybe it works the next day, maybe not. If it does, it'll work for a day or so and then crap out again. Sucks to come home to a pitch black house. - -- - -terry ------------------------------ End of XTension digest V1 #306 ******************************